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		<title>By: Eric Kam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Kam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh I nearly forgot to PLUG:
www.speedraft.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh I nearly forgot to PLUG:<br />
<a href="http://www.speedraft.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.speedraft.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: stephens</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a nice fit - your software on the front end and Speedraft on the back end of the procurement process.

As always, you make valid, compelling points.

Thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a nice fit &#8211; your software on the front end and Speedraft on the back end of the procurement process.</p>
<p>As always, you make valid, compelling points.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Kam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Kam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least we can know in advance how much we will lose by &quot;winning&quot; the job. Or how much we have to engineer in necessary changes to get the job out of the red ink.

Yes, there is a big difference between quoting and costing. But both your good work with Speedraft and what little thing I am working on address a common need, that if we don&#039;t know our costs we have no business quoting it. 

It is to the detriment of the customer and ourselves that for the past few years the industry has created enough historically valid losing project quotes, that most people have no idea what things should cost.

Then we end up with large OEMs who stake an entire economy on whether or not they can bring product to the market, employing skilled personnel, reviving the economy on the dream that I will complete that die set for 7-10% less than last year. Forget that last year too many die shops were shuttered under bankruptcy.

It seems that also the customer here might end up paying for it in the long run, you get what you pay for...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least we can know in advance how much we will lose by &#8220;winning&#8221; the job. Or how much we have to engineer in necessary changes to get the job out of the red ink.</p>
<p>Yes, there is a big difference between quoting and costing. But both your good work with Speedraft and what little thing I am working on address a common need, that if we don&#8217;t know our costs we have no business quoting it. </p>
<p>It is to the detriment of the customer and ourselves that for the past few years the industry has created enough historically valid losing project quotes, that most people have no idea what things should cost.</p>
<p>Then we end up with large OEMs who stake an entire economy on whether or not they can bring product to the market, employing skilled personnel, reviving the economy on the dream that I will complete that die set for 7-10% less than last year. Forget that last year too many die shops were shuttered under bankruptcy.</p>
<p>It seems that also the customer here might end up paying for it in the long run, you get what you pay for&#8230;</p>
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